amelia
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Mar 20, 2010, 3:50 PM
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Re: [demt] vegit v vegan
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i mean vegans use electricity and thus i am often critisized 4 contributing to the large meat dinners of coal miners that feed the power stations
the pt is vegans are as guilty as vegies hence the workers have us instead of understand us as they dont have the time to consider our way of life
i run into this kind of criticism, particulary in the area of fabrics. i do not wear wool because the wool is for the sheep (same with any other animal material) - but i've had people who love wool, who love to knit with wool, tell me that if i'm so vegan then wool is better than, say, corn yarn, because corn farming is worse for the environment. what i usually interpret that sort of argument is that the person thinks that i think i'm better than they are because i abstain from something; they're defense is that what they're doing is better on a larger scale, therefore i'm wrong. it's an assumption made on the part of someone who wants to like what they like without feeling guilty about it. i don't want to tell people what to like or not like, or what to eat or not eat, but i will defend my own decisions. i don't use soy yarn for the sake of the environment, i use soy yarn because i refuse to exploit sheep.
as far as electricity is concerned, it'd be super awesome to have electricity without damaging the environment, but unfortunately we as a planet have yet to uniformly convert to those methods. like it was said above, the argument that your use of electricity contributes to the coal miner's meat dinner is ridiculous. how do you know there aren't any veg*n coal miners? they may earn a living through drainage of resources, but maybe they try to make up for it by avoiding meat. they very well may understand, but they also need to work somewhere to feed their families whatever they choose. you don't know every person in the world, no one does, so these types of "most people do this" generalizations are null and void. there is no statistic, therefore there is no validity.
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im sorry if i offend but three of my mates are teatering on the edge of veg
n im having to outtalk them
ps my social circle is very broke
and giving up anything is considered a form of madness
i take no offense, and i mean none as well. if your friends want to try something new, let them. maybe it will work out for them, and if it doesn't then they'll adjust. unless someone were intent on doing something that would harm themselves or others, there is no reason to talk them out of it. how can anyone truly learn anything if they don't experience it first-hand? case in point, you had a poor time with veganism, where as i and many others have a fantastic time. what works for some may not work for all, but it does work. it is not impossible.
i don't understand that last bit, though. it seems contradictory: your social circle is broke, yet giving something up would be madness? why? wouldn't giving something up save money? or was your point that they complain they're broke but won't give anything up? when i buy my own groceries, i spend way less than i did when i'd buy fish and cheese.
(This post was edited by amelia on Mar 20, 2010, 3:53 PM)
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